The Saddest Thing
Are there any difference between these kids? One picture is Israeli kids, one Palestinian. Both will do anything for the land they want, both take the teachings of their religion and twist it into something hateful-and both are throwing rocks at Israeli soldiers. What are these Israeli kids trying to prove? They seem no better then the enemy they fight against. The Paestinians also started with rocks, til they got guns. What are these kids going to do next? Thankfully, they represent a very small minority, but its a minority that needs to be immediately controlled before they take this any further.
posted by stillruleall at 7:53 PM
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which kid is jewish?
I think that's the point.
what would you suggest they do?
Which "they" are you talking about?
"They", i'm assuming means Chevron supporters, have many options. They could have shown up in mass numbers. Had solidarity rallies. I don't care what. There is one thing they cant do, and that is throw rocks at our soldiers. Nobody actually thinks that the army will be stopped because kids threw rocks. I dont think Mofaz is going to say, "Oh, I didnt realuze it was important to you, never mind then." What will happen is that they'll get kicked out anyway, AND make an enormous chillul Hashem, and amazingly, they make that chillul Hashem in the name of God. Probably in the name of the same God who approves of suicide bombing.
2r, you can apply that same question to the Palestinian kids. In that, you make a moral relativist equation between the Palestinians who throw rocks at soldiers and Israeli who are throwing rocks at soldiers. What do I suggest they do? Not give the world a reason to say that we are no different than the Palestinians, and, therefore cannot condemn their tactics. When you can't tell the difference between the two pictures, you have a serious problem. When a house becomes more important to a person than keeping Mitzvot and acting Al Kidush Hashem then you have serious problems.
But, there's really no point in pointing that out to the people doing this stuff in Chevron. They're all certifiable.
-OC
OC - I think with your statement of "they're all certifiable" discredits your entire statement
SRA - coming out in mass didn't help in the last battle, rallies didn't help, and legal measures didn't help... they've decided to take matters into their own hands
yeah, that seems a bit hypocritical to talk about mitzvot and kiddush Hashem. and then say "they are all certifiable". Do you know them all?
The point of going out to a mass rally and taking legal measures isn't only to win, it's also because you have to do your hishtadlut. Nobody honestly thinks that rocks are going to stop this anymore than a rally. "They" (the rock throwers, not all people who live in, or support, Chevron) are just lowering themselves and gaining nothing.
OK, sarcasm obviously does not work for this crowd.
2r, you're making a very good argument...for the Palestinians. I look forward to seeing you join the International Solidarity Movement. You can't justify that whoever's doing the rock throwing and other terrible things against soldiers and police force in Chevron are legitimate and then say the Palestinians are unjustified in doing the same things. Things like this are never justified.
-OC
SRA - I think we saw what solidarity raffles can accomplish with teh disengagement.I don't condone rock tossing, but they tried rallies and saw that it didnt work so well either.
Shu, you're missing the point. This whole thing got started over 8 or 11, there are conflicting reports, illegal houses. I believe in the states, we call them squatters. The police and soldiers aren't coming in to kick all the Jews out of Chevron. If it comes to that, then we'll talk a little more seriously. What legal measures have they exhausted? They were illegal to begin with. You're trying to justify the unjustifiable. "Well, nobody was listening to him, so he just had to kill her, judge!" C'mon. get real.
-OC
Of course rallying is ineffective. but its a safe legal way to make your point. They can cement their legs to the ground if they really dont want to leave.
My issue has nothing to do with their legal rights to be there. I don't care if they got permission from the actual owners to live there since the deed is in the hands of the Jewish guy (or grandson) who actually owned the property before everyone was killed there. I would like for them to stay there and increase the size of Jewish Chevron. I just get pissed off when kids not only throw rocks at our soldiers, but do it because they believe thats what they are supposed to be doing.
No, anon, the Jews have been throwing rocks as well. Extremism on either side is wrong. If you look in Maariv today, there's a nice side by side photo of a masked woman from HAMAS and a masked Jewish woman. They look exactly the same. They're portraying the exact same image. Don't see anything wrong with that?
-OC
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